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Critique, on any art forum, has always been very welcome in my eyes. There's plenty of praise and nice comments going around, which is always a joy to hear, but it won't make you a better artist. Although I don't always like to hear critique of my work, I know that it is what I need. It prevents me from becoming complacent with my level of ability, and often pushes me to work harder than I would under my own initiative.

However, I recently heard from a group of artists whom I greatly respect, that to critique someone's work who had not asked for critique, was a rude thing to do. If this is the case, then I have been a most despicably rude person.

There are situations in which I understand critique may not be appropriate. Say for example you have an actual gallery show, in an actual building with walls. That is a formal setting in which you may not want me to walk up to your framed artwork... and proceed to point out your shortcomings in front your admiring fans.

Now if we relate online art galleries, such as DA, to brick and mortar gallery shows, then I suppose I can understand why posting a public critique may be considered rude. It's effectively the same 'rude' act, only I can't physically see the look of disapproval on your face.

I would like to hear what you all think of this matter. Is it rude to openly critique someone's artwork when they did not specifically ask for it?

I feel that an honest critique of my art, is one of the most valuable things that I can receive.  It is also the best I can give to other artists.  If I take the time to critique your art, it's because I care! :hug: Or... perhaps I truly am a despicably rude person. :nana: :ohnoes: You guys let me know!
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Generally speaking, its considered bad form if not a logical fallacy to critique a work before its written, whether its a short story or a novella, or a non fiction article.

The reasons are pretty much common sense, if you tell someone to merge characters before its written, you personally don't know if the characters are boring or not, because the work was not written yet.

I know it sounds like common sense, but it's the internet of course.:P I've had to cancel video game projects because I kept getting to much criticism on an unfinished and not shown project.
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=JECBrush Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
On the receiving end, I love to get constructive criticism even if I don't ask for it. Praise from the community is great too, but constructive critiques are much more beneficial to any artist than just getting 'I like it' or 'I don't like it' messages.

I hardly ever critique anybody's work unless they specifically ask for one from me. Otherwise, I feel that it is rude. The person may not be prepared to take critiques and may regard them as an attack on their work and not a friendly recommendation on how to improve. The person's response to the critique may not be pleasant.

Critiques are less expected in dA because the site is built for simply enjoying other people's art, which isn't a bad thing. The culture is different in other art focused sites such as ConceptArt.org or CGSociety.org, as critiques are expected.

Great post btw! It gets folks thinking.
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~CaelestisTrucido Jul 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I almost never get unsolicited advice unless it's from my close illustrator friends. I wish! I don't think there is anything wrong with it unless they specifically ask otherwise. But, I think that's their own loss. I always enjoy helping people learn and grow, but if they aren't willing, there isn't much of a point teaching.
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*jennystokes Jul 22, 2012  Professional General Artist
I do quite a lot of 'Critiques.'
I do only do them if people ask.
I did one the other day for quite a 'well-known' artist on here.
I always loved his work when he started but now it's got too 'hectic.'
I wavered about doing this but thought 'what the hell' and did write what I thought about the changes he implemented since he started out.
He wrote me back and said thank you for the Critique, replied to something I had asked, then said he wouldn't be 'posting' it with his work because he only posted 'nice' critiques!!!!!
I wrote back and asked him 'why' he asks for Critiques................answer came there.......none!
Why I am pointing this out is obvious, ask and you get what you asked for!
All the Critiques I have had, good or bad, I post them with my pic.
IF one can't accept bad Critiques the I presume an artist is not serious about his/her work.
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=Junryou-na-Kokoro Jul 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I believe critique is essential to an artist's growth. I welcome it in any setting, whether it be brick-and-mortar or online gallery. :)
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~Hypogeum Jul 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's an interesting dilemma. I find that it's usually better to err on the side of caution and not critique, but each situation is unique, eh?
If someone is clearly content with their own work, why burst their bubble of happiness? Maybe it's just a hobby, something to relieve stress. They don't need nor want that extra burden. And let's be honest, most people on dA aren't here to do professional quality work.

Not to say that you should stop doing what you're doing. In this case, "being rude" is way too subjective and I, for one, think you're providing a great service.
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*Wildweasel339 Jul 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
That's and interesting, and certainly very valid point of view. Gives me more to contemplate on, thanks!
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~AngelofDeathz Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think if you post your art to a place like Deviantart, you should expect critique/comments. It's always good to hear the opinions of others, and unless it was an extremely rude comment (like saying "this sucks" without giving a reason why), it only makes them look bad when they complain about people giving critique, because they usually do to help, not to attack the artist.

If someone wants it to be more like a formal gallery like you mentioned, and doesn't want critique at all, they can use a personal website or turn off comments.
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~Orangeandbluecream Jul 2, 2012  Student General Artist
I, my self, am too scared to critique anyone.
I don't mind my art being critiqued though, I'm harsh on my self so it doesn't bother me when someone else is too.
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=CLMac Jun 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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When I saw this, I remembered your journal.

And to reply on the point of your journal without rambling on, I don't see how it can be rude to critique when it is not asked for. I feel it is one of the main reasons for an art community, and maybe the most essential. I'd love to be critiqued any day over a pretty compliment because I want to grow. Flattery won't help me, except for my esteem I suppose. Too often I think it may rather be ego. I think posting ones art on deviantart specifically, the artist should be prepared. I like to think of it as an extended classroom, I hope my peers will help me and I hope I can help them too.

But sadly, I find, many people are online for attention. I mean, look at Facebook; why do all those people keep shouting things out to the world that very often should be kept private? Or that many are emboldened on the internet and begin to act a bit narcissistic. But I wonder too if some are offended because they are unschooled (in art education) and, not that they don't understand that its meant to learn, but perhaps the critique itself is misunderstood. On the other side of course, I am not sure many people know how to critique. So perhaps its part of why this issue of critiquing has arisen. Personally, I've never run into a deviant who calls it "rude" so perhaps its not a popular sentiment.

All in all, I do completely agree with you. Ah, but look, I did ramble on ^^;


(Btw, I just have to say, but you truly have the most profound and/or significant journals that I read. So just, thanks for something refreshing.)
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